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A potential new siren from ASC

Thu Nov 26, 2015 3:25 am

I was just browsing Facebook today when I happened to find this; it looks to be a design similar to that of a Whelen or an ASC Quadren:

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanSignal ... 8576150064
Also, a comment by ASC confirms that NEW mechanical sirens are going to be released I the not-to-distant future.
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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:37 am

Chicagosiren-hunters wrote:I was just browsing Facebook today when I happened to find this; it looks to be a design similar to that of a Whelen or an ASC Quadren:

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanSignal ... 8576150064
Also, a comment by ASC confirms that NEW mechanical sirens are going to be released I the not-to-distant future.
Wow. That looks kind of similar to Whelens 2900 series sirens.
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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:23 am

SoundMaster 391 wrote:
Chicagosiren-hunters wrote:I was just browsing Facebook today when I happened to find this; it looks to be a design similar to that of a Whelen or an ASC Quadren:

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanSignal ... 8576150064
Also, a comment by ASC confirms that NEW mechanical sirens are going to be released I the not-to-distant future.
Wow. That looks kind of similar to Whelens 2900 series sirens.
I smell a copyright lawsuit if this is manufactured... :X

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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:02 am

Looks almost exactly like that LRAD PA system.
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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:52 am

CrazyCalvinWilliams wrote:
SoundMaster 391 wrote:
Chicagosiren-hunters wrote:I was just browsing Facebook today when I happened to find this; it looks to be a design similar to that of a Whelen or an ASC Quadren:

https://www.facebook.com/AmericanSignal ... 8576150064
Also, a comment by ASC confirms that NEW mechanical sirens are going to be released I the not-to-distant future.
Wow. That looks kind of similar to Whelens 2900 series sirens.
I smell a copyright lawsuit if this is manufactured... :X
No. Copyright is for printed material and works of art.

Now the issue is patent related. The 2700 speaker and driver are patented. But what ASC has may look similar, but isn't even remotely similar in function and execution...starting with 4-100W drivers per cell oriented horizontally instead of 1-400 W driver vertically. I'm no patent lawyer but you can't patent a exponential horn stacked on another.

Now what I foresee is driver replacement being a pain. Wonder how that'll be mitigated.

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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:01 pm

I think ASC will do a driver removal method kind of similar to Whelen's method. They will have a little area that is connected to the driver and is removable, but instead of one location, it can be one on all 4 sides of the cell. I don't think it would be on the bad part of legal grounds, but I don't know.
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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:54 pm

WilmothWarningSignal wrote:I think ASC will do a driver removal method kind of similar to Whelen's method. They will have a little area that is connected to the driver and is removable, but instead of one location, it can be one on all 4 sides of the cell. I don't think it would be on the bad part of legal grounds, but I don't know.
It would be cool to see a siren like one of Whelen's omnidirectionals but with a large chopper/rotor in each layer, like a triple-stacked Model 5! :O

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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:49 pm

Well, at least the lead moderator can agree with me that it looks like a Whelen Omni directional..

Logan Shelt:s Looks like a Whelen Omni Series siren.

American Signal Corporation: These are two different models of electronic sirens.

But I am excited! Except for the fact I haven't been a fan of ASC's electronic sirens... ever :/
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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:15 pm

It looks cool. What has took my interest is the new motorised sirens they'll be releasing. I just hope they would be dual tone with 12/10, 12/9 or a 12/8 rotor & stator used on the new motor sirens with some ACA predecessor in its design.

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Re: A potential new siren from ASC

Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:48 pm

I am not certain on the design of the new mechanical design, but unfortunately, it will most likely be single toned, unless they make some sort of "octave" siren (but that seems highly unlikely) as dual toned sirens do not get as good of a decibel reading and the sound does not carry as far as a single tone Model. Despite this, I still cannot wait to see the new models. (Also, thank you for moving this topic to the main forum; it now makes a lot more sense.)
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