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Stator port "lips" sharp vs squared

Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:22 pm

Sharp opening "lips" ==> <==,
or
squared ==] [== edges
What differences do they produce?
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:39 pm

Are you referring to bevelled edges on each side of a stator port? If so, there wouldn't really be a difference in sound because having such a design of port just saves weight.
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:45 pm

SirenMadness wrote:Are you referring to bevelled edges on each side of a stator port? If so, there wouldn't really be a difference in sound because having such a design of port just saves weight.
I bet it does make a difference in harmonic content.

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Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:52 pm

Even the thicker stators are not thick enough to cause a major difference in the sound's propagation from the siren, so putting a slight bevel on the edge of a port won't make a difference in harmonics up to a point at which it would make the siren quieter at a hundred feet by even a Decibel, possibly.
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:58 pm

I'm not referring to efficiency.
More to harmonic content. Waveforms.
Sizzle.
My 2t22 has beveled stator lips.
But I have seen photos of other sirens with squared lip edges.
And the Banshee with beveled openings forming short projectors.

Would be interesting to see the waveforms and hear the differences.

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Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:16 pm

I think that the sound form would pretty much be the same, as at a high pressure, the air exits the stator so fast that about a centimeter extra of stator wall would not really make a difference, so the sound would pretty much sound the same.
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Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:25 pm

I'd also love to know the pressure created by the rotor.

When first operated and standing about 18 feet away, I felt Lassie's breath from her naked stators!

Maybe next January 5th, I'll attach ribbons to her lower ports and watch how far out they extend.
I may be able to fabricate a single rectangular port opening cover, held in place by the projector cone attachment screws, connected to a pressure gauge to obtain a static pressureading.

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Those Greek-made sirens look like an E-57 but have angled rotor blades and normal stator ports. Perhaps that would change the sound somewhat.
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